Classic Era and Forever

Forever rogue changes

Data updated 2 Nov 2026. Classic Era 1.15.9.70576, Forever 1.60.1.70707, TBC Anniversary 2.5.6.70577.

Counts cover abilities available for comparison.

Talents, class spells and racials: 34 new, 120 changed, 25 removed and 46 unchanged.

179 changes shown.

Talents

10 new, 35 changed, 8 removed and 8 unchanged.

Combat

3 new, 9 changed, 5 removed and 5 unchanged.

Improved EvisceratechangedAssassination to Combat. Increases the damage done by your Eviscerate ability by 5% to 7%.CombatTier 1

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Improved BackstabremovedRemoved in Forever.CombatTier 2

Deflectionchanged5 to 3 ranks. Increases your Parry chance by 1% to 2%.CombatTier 2

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Precisionchanged5 to 3 ranks. ~~Increases~~ Improves your chance to hit ~~with melee weapons~~ by 1%.CombatTier 2

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Endurancechanged... and Evasion abilities by ~~45 sec.~~ 30%.CombatTier 3

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RipostechangedA strike that becomes active after parrying an opponent's attack. This attack deals 150% weapon damage and disarms the target for value not confirmed.CombatTier 3

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Dagger SpecializationremovedRemoved in Forever.CombatTier 4

Matches TBC Anniversary at rank 1.

Dual Wield SpecializationchangedIncreases the damage done by your off-hand weapon by ~~10%~~ to 5%.CombatTier 4

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Mace SpecializationremovedRemoved in Forever.CombatTier 5

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Blade FlurrychangedIncreases your melee attack speed by 20% ~~In addition,~~ and your melee attacks strike an additional ...CombatTier 5

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Sword SpecializationremovedRemoved in Forever.CombatTier 5

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Fist Weapon SpecializationremovedRemoved in Forever.CombatTier 5

Matches TBC Anniversary at rank 1.

Weapon Expertisechanged~~Increases~~ Reduces the chance for your ~~skill with Sword, Fist and Dagger weapons~~ attacks to be Dodged or Parried by 3. 1%.CombatTier 6

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Aggressionchanged... of your Sinister Strike, Backstab, and Eviscerate abilities by ...CombatTier 6

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Puncturing WoundsnewIncreases the critical strike chance of your Backstab by 10% and your Mutilate by 5%, and gives Backstab a 15% chance to add an additional Combo Point.CombatTier 2

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Flawless ExecutionnewReduces the Energy cost of your Eviscerate ability by 10.CombatTier 4

Hack and SlashnewGives your melee weapon attacks a benefit depending on the weapon. Axe/Sword: Your successful melee attacks have a 1% chance to trigger an extra attack on the target. Dagger/Fist: Increases your critical strike chance by 1%. Mace: Your attacks ignore 3% of your target's armor.CombatTier 5

Assassination

2 new, 13 changed, 0 removed and 2 unchanged.

Remorseless AttackschangedAfter killing ~~an opponent that yields experience or honor,~~ a non-trivial enemy, gives you a 20% ... Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush, Mutilate, or Ghostly Strike. Lasts ...AssassinationTier 1

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Malicechanged... your critical strike chance with all attacks and Poisons by 1%.AssassinationTier 1

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MurderchangedIncreases all damage ~~caused~~ dealt by 2% against Humanoid ~~Giant, Beast~~ and ~~Dragonkin~~ Giant targets. ~~by 1%.~~AssassinationTier 2

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Relentless StrikeschangedYour finishing moves have a ~~20%~~ to 0% chance per Combo Point to restore 25 Energy.AssassinationTier 3

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Improved Expose Armorchanged~~Increases~~ Reduces the ~~armor reduced by~~ Energy cost of your Expose Armor ability by ~~25%.~~ 5, and refunds 1 Combo Point when cast with 5 Combo Points.AssassinationTier 3

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Lethalitychanged... Sinister Strike, Gouge, Backstab, Mutilate, Ghostly Strike, and Hemorrhage abilities by ~~6%.~~ 4%.AssassinationTier 3

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Vile PoisonschangedColumn 2 to 1.AssassinationTier 4

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Improved Poisonschanged... your target by 2%, and gives Poison applications a 10% chance to not consume a charge.AssassinationTier 4

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Cold BloodchangedTier 5 to 4. ... Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush, or Eviscerate, or Mutilate by 100%.AssassinationTier 4

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Improved Kidney Shotchanged3 to 2 ranks. ~~While affected~~ Enemies Stunned by your Kidney Shot ability ~~the target receives an additional 3%~~ take 5% increased damage from ~~all sources.~~ your poisons and attacks.AssassinationTier 5

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Seal FatechangedColumn 2 to 3.AssassinationTier 6

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Vigorchanged1 to 2 ranks. Tier 7 to 5. Column 2 to 1. Increases your maximum Energy by 10 to 5.AssassinationTier 5

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Improved GougechangedCombat to Assassination. Increases the ~~effect~~ duration of your Gouge ...AssassinationTier 1

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MutilatenewInstantly attacks with both weapons for 75% weapon damage plus an additional 17 with each weapon. Damage increased by 20% against Poisoned targets. Awards 2 Combo Points.AssassinationTier 5

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VenomnewFinishing move that increases the damage of your Poisons by 30% and your chance to apply Poisons by 10%. Lasts longer per combo point: 1 point : 9 sec 2 points: 12 sec 3 points: 15 sec 4 points: 18 sec 5 points: 21 secAssassinationTier 7

Subtlety

5 new, 13 changed, 3 removed and 1 unchanged.

Master of Deceptionchanged5 to 3 ranks. ... while in Stealth mode as if you were 1 level higher.SubtletyTier 1

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Opportunitychanged5 to 2 ranks. Increases the damage dealt ~~when striking from behind with~~ by your Backstab, Garrote, or Ambush, and Mutilate abilities by ~~4%.~~ 5%.SubtletyTier 1

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Sleight of HandremovedRemoved in Forever.SubtletyTier 2

Matches TBC Anniversary at rank 1.

ElusivenesschangedRank 2: ... and Blind abilities by ~~1.5 min.~~ 90 sec.SubtletyTier 2

Matches TBC Anniversary at rank 1.

CamouflagechangedTier 2 to 1. Column 3 to 1. ~~Increases~~ Reduces your speed ~~while stealthed~~ penalty from your Stealth ability by 3% and reduces ~~the~~ its cooldown ~~of your Stealth ability~~ by 1 2 sec.SubtletyTier 1

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InitiativechangedGives you a ~~25%~~ to 33% chance to add an additional combo point to your target when using your Ambush, Garrote, or Cheap Shot ability.SubtletyTier 3

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Ghostly Strikechanged... strike that deals 125% (180% if a Dagger is equipped in your Main Hand) weapon damage and increases ...SubtletyTier 3

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Improved AmbushchangedTier 3 to 2. Column 3 to 4.SubtletyTier 2

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SetupchangedTier 4 to 2. Gives you a ~~15%~~ 33% chance to add a ... your target after Dodging one of their ~~attack~~ attacks or fully resisting one ...SubtletyTier 2

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Improved SapremovedRemoved in Forever.SubtletyTier 4

Serrated Bladeschanged... your attacks to ignore 0 3% of your target's Armor ... Rupture ability by 10%. ~~The amount of Armor reduced increases with your level.~~SubtletyTier 4

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Heightened SenseschangedTier 5 to 4. Increases your Stealth detection as if you were 1 level higher and reduces ~~the~~ your chance ~~you are~~ to be hit by spells and ...SubtletyTier 4

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Dirty DeedschangedColumn 3 to 1. ... Garrote abilities by 10, and your Garrote ability no longer requires you to be behind your target.SubtletyTier 5

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HemorrhagechangedColumn 4 to 3. An instant strike that ~~damages the opponent~~ deals 100% weapon damage (145% if a Dagger is equipped) and causes the target to ~~hemorrhage, increasing any Physical~~ take 15% increased Rupture damage ~~dealt to~~ from the ~~target by up to 3.~~ Rogue. Lasts ~~30 charges or~~ 15 seconds. Awards 1 ...SubtletyTier 5

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DeadlinessremovedRemoved in Forever.SubtletyTier 6

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PremeditationchangedTier 7 to 4. ~~When used,~~ Adds 2 Combo Points ... those combo points within 10 20 seconds or the combo ...SubtletyTier 4

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Dirty TricksnewReduces the Energy cost of your Sap and Blind abilities by 25%.SubtletyTier 2

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Improved DistractnewIncreases the radius of your Distract ability by 3 yds, and further reduces the Stealth detection of distracted enemies as though they were an additional 1 level lower.SubtletyTier 3

QuietusnewYour Sinister Strike, Ghostly Strike, and Hemorrhage abilities cause 2% more damage against targets below 35% health.SubtletyTier 6

CutthroatnewYour Backstab has a 3% chance to cause your next Ambush within 10 seconds to not require Stealth.SubtletyTier 6

Thousand CutsnewWhen your Rupture ability deals periodic damage, the Energy cost of your next Hemorrhage or Backstab ability within 10 seconds is reduced by 3, stacking up to 5 times.SubtletyTier 7

Class spells

1 new, 69 changed, 3 removed and 33 unchanged.

Deadly PoisonchangedCoats a weapon with poison that lasts for 30 minutes. Each strike has a 30% chance of poisoning the enemy for 36 to 24 Nature damage over 12 seconds. Stacks up to 5 times on a single target. 60 to 90 charges.Class spells

Deadly Poison IIchangedCoats a weapon with poison that lasts for 30 minutes. Each strike has a 30% chance of poisoning the enemy for 52 to 36 Nature damage over 12 seconds. Stacks up to 5 times on a single target. 75 to 115 charges.Class spells

Distractchanged... attention of all nearby ~~monsters~~ enemies and reducing their Stealth detection as if they were 1 level lower for 10 seconds. Does ...Class spells

GougechangedCauses 10 damage, ~~incapacitating~~ stops your attack, and incapacitates the target for 4 seconds. ~~and turns off your attack.~~ The target must be facing you. Any damage ~~caused~~ taken will ~~revive~~ break the ~~target.~~ effect. Awards 1 combo point.Class spells

Mind-numbing PoisonchangedCoats a weapon with poison that lasts for 30 minutes. Each strike has a 20% chance of poisoning the enemy, increasing their casting time by 40% for 10 seconds. 50 to 75 charges.Class spells

EvisceratechangedFinishing move that causes damage per combo point, increased by Attack Power: 1 point : 6 to 8~~-10~~ to -8 damage 2 points: 11 to 13~~-15~~ to -13 damage 3 points: 16 to 18~~-20~~ to -18 damage 4 points: 21 to 23~~-25~~ to -23 damage 5 points: 26 to 28~~-30~~ to -28 damageClass spells

RupturechangedFinishing move that causes damage over time, increased by your Attack Power. Lasts longer per combo point: 1 point : 40 to 25 damage over 8 secs 2 points: 60 to 37 damage over 10 secs 3 points: 84 to 51 damage over 12 secs 4 points: ~~112~~ to 68 damage over 14 secs 5 points: ~~144~~ to 87 damage over 16 secsClass spells

Instant Poisonchanged... enemy which instantly inflicts ~~19 to 25~~ 15 Nature damage. 40 60 charges.Class spells

Instant Poison IIchanged... enemy which instantly inflicts ~~30 to 38~~ 23 Nature damage. 55 85 charges.Class spells

Instant Poison IIIchanged... enemy which instantly inflicts ~~44 to 56~~ 33 Nature damage. 70 105 charges.Class spells

Mind-numbing Poison IIchangedCoats a weapon with poison that lasts for 30 minutes. Each strike has a 20% chance of poisoning the enemy, increasing their casting time by 50% for 12 seconds. 75 to 115 charges.Class spells

Instant Poison IVchanged... enemy which instantly inflicts ~~67 to 85~~ 51 Nature damage. 85 1800 charges.Class spells

Instant Poison Vchanged... enemy which instantly inflicts ~~92 to 118~~ 71 Nature damage. ~~100~~ 150 charges.Class spells

Instant Poison VIchanged... enemy which instantly inflicts ~~112 to 148~~ 88 Nature damage. ~~115~~ 175 charges.Class spells

Deadly Poison IIIchangedCoats a weapon with poison that lasts for 30 minutes. Each strike has a 30% chance of poisoning the enemy for 80 to 56 Nature damage over 12 seconds. Stacks up to 5 times on a single target. 90 to 135 charges.Class spells

Deadly Poison IVchangedCoats a weapon with poison that lasts for 30 minutes. Each strike has a 30% chance of poisoning the enemy for ~~108~~ to 72 Nature damage over 12 seconds. Stacks up to 5 times on a single target. ~~105~~ to 160 charges.Class spells

Mind-numbing Poison IIIchangedCoats a weapon with poison that lasts for 30 minutes. Each strike has a 20% chance of poisoning the enemy, increasing their casting time by 60% for 14 seconds. ~~100~~ to 150 charges.Class spells

BackstabchangedBackstab the target, causing 150% weapon damage plus 15 to 10 to the target. Must be behind the target. Requires a dagger in the main hand. Awards 1 combo point.Class spells

Sapchanged... up to 25 seconds. ~~Must be stealthed.~~ Only works on Humanoids ... in combat. Any damage ~~caused~~ taken will ~~revive~~ break the ~~target.~~ effect. Only 1 target may ... sapped at a time. Does not break Stealth.Class spells

Wound Poisonchanged... used on them by 55 67 for 15 seconds. Stacks up to 5 times on a single target. 90 charges.Class spells

Wound Poison IIchanged... used on them by 75 92 for 15 seconds. Stacks up to 5 times on a single target. 115 charges.Class spells

Wound Poison IIIchanged... used on them by ~~105~~ 128 for 15 seconds. Stacks up to 5 times on a single target. 135 charges.Class spells

Wound Poison IVchanged... used on them by ~~135~~ 165 for 15 seconds. Stacks up to 5 times on a single target. 160 charges.Class spells

HemorrhageremovedRemoved in Forever.Class spells

Deadly Poison VchangedCoats a weapon with poison that lasts for 30 minutes. Each strike has a 30% chance of poisoning the enemy for ~~136~~ to 92 Nature damage over 12 seconds. Stacks up to 5 times on a single target. ~~105~~ to 180 charges.Class spells

Expose ArmorchangedFinishing move that exposes the target for 30 seconds, reducing Armor per combo point: 1 point : 80 to 90 Armor 2 points: ~~160~~ to 180 Armor 3 points: ~~240~~ to 270 Armor 4 points: ~~320~~ to 360 Armor 5 points: ~~400~~ to 450 ArmorClass spells

Engrave Pants - Between the EyeschangedEngrave your pants with the Between the Eyes rune: Ranged Finishing move that causes damage per combo point, increased by Attack Power, and Stuns the target: 1 point: ~~148~~ to 187 to ~~226~~ to 187 damage, 1 sec Stun 2 points: ~~238~~ to 301 to ~~364~~ to 301 damage, 2 sec Stun 3 points: ~~329~~ to 416 to ~~503~~ to 416 damage, 3 sec Stun 4 points: ~~420~~ to 530 to ~~641~~ to 530 damage, 4 sec Stun 5 points: ~~510~~ to 645 to ~~780~~ to 645 damage, 5 sec Stun Cooldown shared with Kidney Shot.Class spells

Engrave Chest - Just a Flesh WoundchangedEngrave your chest or robe with the Just a Flesh Wound rune: You take ~~19%~~ to 30% reduced Physical damage while Blade Dance is active, reduced by an additional 1% for every 13 to 12 of your Defense skill beyond 300. Additionally, your chance to Dodge is multiplied by ~~49%~~ to 50%, you have 5% to 6% reduced chance to be critically hit by melee attacks, you deal ~~19%~~ to 20% less damage, the threat generated by all your actions is massively increased, and your Feint ability is replaced with Tease, which Taunts the target to attack you. Taunts the target to attack you, but has no effect if the target is already attacking you.Class spells

Engrave Boots - Rolling with the PuncheschangedEngrave your boots with the Rolling with the Punches rune: Each time you Dodge or Parry, you gain 6% increased Health, stacking up to 6 to 5 times.Class spells

Engrave Chest - Quick DrawchangedEngrave your chest or robe with the Quick Draw rune: Draw your ranged weapon and fire a quick shot at an enemy, causing normal ranged weapon damage and reducing the target's movement speed by ~~49%~~ to 50% for 6 seconds. Awards 1 combo point. Quick Draw benefits from all talents and effects that trigger from or modify Sinister Strike.Class spells

Engrave Gloves - Mutilatechanged... with both weapons for ~~96%~~ 75% weapon damage plus an additional ~~105~~ 25 with each weapon. Damage is increased by 20% against ... Awards 2 Combo Points. ~~Mutilate benefits from all talents and effects that trigger from or modify Backstab unless otherwise specified.~~Class spells

Engrave Pants - Blade DancechangedEngrave your pants with the Blade Dance rune: Finishing move that increases your Parry chance by ~~11%~~ to 10% and grants 5 to 4 Attack Power for each point of your defense skill beyond 300. Lasts longer per combo point: 1 point : 14 seconds 2 points: 18 seconds 3 points: 22 seconds 4 points: 26 seconds 5 points: 30 secondsClass spells

Engrave Belt - ShadowstepchangedEngrave your belt with the Shadowstep rune: Attempts to step through the shadows and reappear behind your enemy and increases movement speed by ~~71%~~ to 70% for 3 seconds.Class spells

Engrave Pants - Envenomchanged... with the Envenom rune: Finishing move that deals instant poison damage based on Deadly Poison doses on the target. Following the Envenom attack you have a 76% increased frequency of applying Instant Poison for 1 sec plus an additional 1 sec per combo point. One dose is activated per combo point: 1 dose: 87 + 7.2% of attack power damage 2 doses: 175 + 14.4% of attack power damage 3 doses: 262 + 21.6% of attack power damage 4 doses: 350 + 28.8% of attack power damage 5 doses: 437 + 36% of attack power damage value not confirmedClass spells

Engrave Pants - ShadowstepchangedEngrave your pants with the Shadowstep rune: Attempts to step through the shadows and reappear behind your enemy and increases movement speed by ~~71%~~ to 70% for 3 seconds.Class spells

Engrave Gloves - ShadowstrikechangedEngrave your gloves with the Shadowstrike rune: Teleport behind your target and strike, causing ~~151%~~ to 150% weapon damage to the target. Must be stealthed. Awards 1 combo point.Class spells

Engrave Belt - Shuriken TosschangedEngrave your belt with the Shuriken Toss rune: Throw a shuriken at your enemy dealing damage equal to ~~51%~~ to 50% of your Attack Power, and also strike up to 4 additional nearby targets. Awards 1 combo point per target hit.Class spells

Engrave Cloak - BlunderbusschangedEngrave your cloak with the Blunderbuss rune: Fire a musket blast at up to 4 enemies in a cone in front of you for ~~207~~ to 259 + ~~49%~~ to 48% of attack power to ~~311~~ to 259 + ~~49%~~ to 48% of attack power Physical damage.Class spells

Engrave Boots - WaylaychangedEngrave your boots with the Waylay rune: Your Ambush and Backstab hits unbalance your target, increasing the time between their melee attacks by 9% to 10%, and reducing movement speed by 50% for 8 seconds.Class spells

Engrave Chest - Slaughter from the ShadowschangedEngrave your chest or robe with the Slaughter from the Shadows rune: Reduces the Energy cost of your Backstab and Ambush abilities by 29 to 30, and increases the damage they deal to non-player controlled targets by ~~71%~~ to 60%. Does not apply to abilities learned from other runes.Class spells

Engrave Gloves - Saber SlashchangedEngrave your gloves with the Saber Slash rune: Viciously slash an enemy for ~~101%~~ to 100% weapon damage, and cause the target to bleed for 6% to 5% of attack power damage every 2 sec for 12 seconds, stacking up to 3 times. Each stack also increases damage done by your Saber Slash and Sinister Strike by ~~51%~~ to 33%. Awards 1 combo point. Saber Slash benefits from all talents and effects that trigger from or modify Sinister Strike.Class spells

Engrave Gloves - Cutthroatchanged... the Cutthroat rune: Your ~~Ambush,~~ Backstab ~~and Garrote abilities no longer require you to be behind your target, and Backstab~~ has a ~~16%~~ 15% chance to ~~make~~ cause your next Ambush within 10 seconds to not require ~~you to be in~~ Stealth.Class spells

Engrave Gloves - Main Gauchechanged... chance to parry by ~~101%~~ 100% for 5 seconds or ... Gauche, Sinister Strike costs 19 20 less Energy, deals ~~51%~~ 50% more threat, grants stacks ... Strike and Eviscerate deal ~~51%~~ 50% more damage. Awards 2 1 combo ~~points.~~ point. Main Gauche benefits from ...Class spells

Engrave Boots - Master of SubtletychangedEngrave your boots with the Master of Subtlety rune: Attacks made while stealthed and for 6 seconds after breaking stealth cause an additional ~~11%~~ to 10% damage.Class spells

Engrave Belt - Poisoned KnifechangedEngrave your belt with the Poisoned Knife rune: Instantly throw your off-hand weapon to deal normal off-hand weapon damage with a 100% chance to apply the poison from your off-hand weapon to the target. Awards 1 combo point. Refunds 6 to 5 Energy per application of Deadly Poison on the target. Poisoned Knife benefits from all talents and effects that trigger from or modify Sinister Strike.Class spells

MutilateremovedRemoved in Forever.Class spells

EnvenomremovedRemoved in Forever.Class spells

ShadowstrikechangedTeleport behind your target and strike, causing ~~151%~~ to 150% weapon damage to the target. Must be stealthed. Awards 1 combo point.Class spells

Shuriken TosschangedThrow a shuriken at your enemy dealing damage equal to ~~51%~~ to 50% of your Attack Power, and also strike up to 4 additional nearby targets. Awards 1 combo point per target hit.Class spells

Blade DancechangedFinishing move that increases your Parry chance by ~~11%~~ to 10% and grants 5 to 4 Attack Power for each point of your defense skill beyond 300. Lasts longer per combo point: 1 point : 14 seconds 2 points: 18 seconds 3 points: 22 seconds 4 points: 26 seconds 5 points: 30 secondsClass spells

Main Gauchechanged... chance to parry by ~~101%~~ 100% for 5 seconds or ... Gauche, Sinister Strike costs 19 20 less Energy, deals ~~51%~~ 50% more threat, grants stacks ... Strike and Eviscerate deal ~~51%~~ 50% more damage. Awards 2 1 combo ~~points.~~ point. Main Gauche benefits from ...Class spells

Poisoned KnifechangedInstantly throw your off-hand weapon to deal normal off-hand weapon damage with a 100% chance to apply the poison from your off-hand weapon to the target. Awards 1 combo point. Refunds 6 to 5 Energy per application of Deadly Poison on the target. Poisoned Knife benefits from all talents and effects that trigger from or modify Sinister Strike.Class spells

Between the EyeschangedRanged Finishing move that causes damage per combo point, increased by Attack Power, and Stuns the target: 1 point: ~~148~~ to 187 to ~~226~~ to 187 damage, 1 sec Stun 2 points: ~~238~~ to 301 to ~~364~~ to 301 damage, 2 sec Stun 3 points: ~~329~~ to 416 to ~~503~~ to 416 damage, 3 sec Stun 4 points: ~~420~~ to 530 to ~~641~~ to 530 damage, 4 sec Stun 5 points: ~~510~~ to 645 to ~~780~~ to 645 damage, 5 sec Stun Cooldown shared with Kidney Shot.Class spells

Quick DrawchangedDraw your ranged weapon and fire a quick shot at an enemy, causing normal ranged weapon damage and reducing the target's movement speed by ~~49%~~ to 50% for 6 seconds. Awards 1 combo point. Quick Draw benefits from all talents and effects that trigger from or modify Sinister Strike.Class spells

Saber SlashchangedViciously slash an enemy for ~~101%~~ to 100% weapon damage, and cause the target to bleed for 6% to 5% of attack power damage every 2 sec for 12 seconds, stacking up to 3 times. Each stack also increases damage done by your Saber Slash and Sinister Strike by ~~51%~~ to 33%. Awards 1 combo point. Saber Slash benefits from all talents and effects that trigger from or modify Sinister Strike.Class spells

Engrave Helm - Focused AttackschangedEngrave your helm with the Focused Attacks rune: You gain 3 to 2 Energy every time you deal a melee or ranged critical strike.Class spells

Engrave Helm - Combat PotencychangedEngrave your helm with the Combat Potency rune: You have a ~~20%~~ to 0% chance to gain 16 to 15 Energy every time you deal melee damage with your off-hand weapon.Class spells

Engrave Bracers - Unfair AdvantagechangedEngrave your bracers with the Unfair Advantage rune: Whenever you dodge or parry an attack you gain an Unfair Advantage, striking back for ~~101%~~ to 100% of your main hand weapon's damage and gaining 1 combo point. This cannot occur more than once per second.Class spells

Engrave Bracers - CarnagechangedEngrave your bracers with the Carnage rune: Your abilities deal ~~16%~~ to 8% increased damage to targets afflicted by one of your Bleed effects. Your Rupture also heals you for ~~41%~~ to 40% of the damage it deals.Class spells

Engrave Cloak - Fan of KniveschangedEngrave your cloak with the Fan of Knives rune: Instantly throw both weapons at all targets within 8 yards, causing ~~77%~~ to 75% weapon damage with daggers, and ~~51%~~ to 50% weapon damage with all other weapons.Class spells

Numbing PoisonchangedCoats a weapon with poison that lasts for 30 minutes. Each strike has a 30% chance of poisoning the enemy, increasing the time between the enemy's melee attacks by ~~19%~~ to 20% for 15 seconds. 105 charges.Class spells

Atrophic PoisonchangedCoats a weapon with poison that lasts for 30 minutes. Each strike has a 30% chance of poisoning the enemy, reducing the enemy's melee attack power by ~~204~~ to 205 for 15 seconds. 105 charges.Class spells

Sebacious PoisonchangedCoats a weapon with poison that lasts for 30 minutes. Each strike has a 30% chance of poisoning the enemy, reducing the enemy's armor by ~~1699~~ to 1700 for 15 seconds. 105 charges. Sebacious Poison benefits from the Improved Expose Armor talent.Class spells

Engrave Ring - Sword SpecializationchangedEngrave your ring with the Sword Specialization rune: Skill with Swords and Two-Handed Swords increased by 6 to 5. This effect is not cumulative with racial bonuses or other ring runes.Class spells

Engrave Ring - Mace SpecializationchangedEngrave your ring with the Mace Specialization rune: Skill with Maces and Two-Handed Maces increased by 6 to 5. This effect is not cumulative with racial bonuses or other ring runes.Class spells

Engrave Ring - Dagger SpecializationchangedEngrave your ring with the Dagger Specialization rune: Skill with Daggers increased by 6 to 5. This effect is not cumulative with racial bonuses or other ring runes.Class spells

Engrave Ring - Fist Weapon SpecializationchangedEngrave your ring with the Fist Weapon Specialization rune: Skill with Fist Weapons (Unarmed) increased by 6 to 5. This effect is not cumulative with racial bonuses or other ring runes.Class spells

Engrave Ring - Ranged Weapon SpecializationchangedEngrave your ring with the Ranged Weapon Specialization rune: Skill with Bows, Guns, Crossbows, and Thrown weapons increased by 6 to 5. This effect is not cumulative with racial bonuses or other ring runes.Class spells

Engrave Ring - Nature Specializationchanged... Chance to hit with ~~Nature~~ spells increased by ~~7%.~~ 6%. Not cumulative with other ...Class spells

Occult Poison IchangedCoats a weapon with poison that lasts for 30 minutes. Each strike has a 30% chance of poisoning the enemy for 108 Nature damage over 12 seconds and causing the enemy to take 5% to 4% increased Arcane, Fire, Frost, Nature, and Shadow damage. Stacks up to 5 times on a single target. Occult Poison counts as Deadly Poison and benefits from all talents and effects that trigger from or modify Deadly Poison.Class spells

Engrave Ring - Defense SpecializationchangedEngrave your ring with the Defense Specialization rune: Defense skill increased by 26 to 25. Not cumulative with other ring runes.Class spells

Occult Poison IIchangedCoats a weapon with poison that lasts for 30 minutes. Each strike has a 30% chance of poisoning the enemy for ~~140~~ to 136 Nature damage over 12 seconds and causing the enemy to take 5% to 4% increased Arcane, Fire, Frost, Nature, and Shadow damage. Stacks up to 5 times on a single target. Occult Poison counts as Deadly Poison and benefits from all talents and effects that trigger from or modify Deadly Poison.Class spells

Journeyman RidingnewAllows you to ride swift ground mounts that require a riding skill of 150. Known abilities:Class spells

Racials

Human

1 new, 1 changed, 2 removed and 2 unchanged.

DiplomacyremovedRemoved in Forever.Racials

RuthlesschangedSword Specialization to Ruthless. ~~Skill~~ Increases your critical strike chance with ~~Swords~~ all spells and ~~Two-Handed Swords increased~~ attacks by 5. 2%.Racials

Mace SpecializationremovedRemoved in Forever.Racials

Will to SurvivenewInstantly removes all Stun effects.Racials

Orc

1 new, 3 changed, 3 removed and 0 unchanged.

Blood FurychangedIncreases ~~base melee~~ Attack Power ~~by 25% for 15 seconds~~ and ~~reduces healing effects on you~~ Spell Power by ~~50%~~ 10% for 25 15 seconds.Racials

Hardinesschanged~~Chance to resist~~ Duration of Stun effects ~~increased~~ on you reduced by ~~an additional 25%.~~ 20%.Racials

SavagechangedAxe Specialization to Savage. ~~Skill~~ Increases your critical strike chance with ~~Axes~~ all spells and ~~Two-Handed Axes increased~~ abilities by 5. 1%.Racials

CommandremovedRemoved in Forever.Racials

Shatter CursenewInstantly removes all Curses and Banes, and reduces all Magical damage taken by 5% for 8 seconds.Racials

Dwarf

2 new, 1 changed, 2 removed and 1 unchanged.

Frost ResistanceremovedRemoved in Forever.Racials

Gun SpecializationremovedRemoved in Forever.Racials

Stoneformchanged~~While active,~~ Instantly removes and grants immunity to all Bleed, Poison, and Disease effects, ~~In addition, Armor increased~~ and reduces all Physical damage taken by 10% ~~Lasts~~ for 8 seconds.Racials

Earth FurynewIncreases your critical strike bonus to damage and healing by 2%.Racials

Big Game HunternewDamage dealt versus Beasts increased by 5%.Racials

Night Elf

1 new, 4 changed, 1 removed and 0 unchanged.

Shadowmeldchanged... cancelled or upon moving. ~~Night Elf Rogues and Druids with Shadowmeld are more difficult~~ Using this ability in combat discourages enemies from attacking you, but increases the cooldown to ~~detect while stealthed or prowling.~~ 2 min.Racials

Nature ResistanceremovedRemoved in Forever.Racials

Quicknesschanged... chance increased by 1% and movement speed increased by 2%. Night Elf Rogues and Druids are harder to detect in Stealth as if they were 1 level higher.Racials

Wisp Spiritchanged... wisp upon death, increasing movement speed by ~~50%.~~ 75%.Racials

Quickness PassivechangedShadowmeld Passive to Quickness Passive.Racials

Elune's LightnewIncreases your critical strike chance with all spells and attacks by 10% for 15 seconds.Racials

Undead

2 new, 2 changed, 1 removed and 1 unchanged.

Will of the Forsakenchanged~~Provides immunity to~~ Instantly removes all Charm, Fear and Sleep ~~while active. May also be used while already afflicted by Charm, Fear or Sleep. Lasts 5 seconds.~~ effects.Racials

Cannibalizechanged... 7% of total Health and 7% of total Mana every 2 sec for ...Racials

Shadow ResistanceremovedRemoved in Forever.Racials

Touch of the GravenewYour spells and attacks have a 20% chance to drain Health from the target, up to 5% of your maximum Health.Racials

Touch of the GravenewYour spells and attacks have a 30% chance to drain Health from the target, up to 5% of your maximum Health.Racials

Gnome

7 new, 3 changed, 1 removed and 0 unchanged.

Escape ArtistchangedInstantly escape the effects of any ~~immobilization or~~ movement ~~speed reduction~~ impairing effect and gain immunity to those effects for 3 seconds.Racials

Expansive Mindchanged~~Intelligence~~ Maximum Mana increased by 5%.Racials

Engineering SpecializationchangedYour gnomish ingenuity reduces the rate of engineering ~~skill increased~~ devices failing or backfiring when you use them by ~~15.~~ 20%.Racials

Arcane ResistanceremovedRemoved in Forever.Racials

Expansive MindnewMaximum Energy increased by 5%.Racials

Expansive MindnewMaximum Rage increased by 5%.Racials

Eureka!newYour non-periodic damaging abilities have their Energy cost reduced by 10% and deal 10% more damage for 8 seconds.Racials

Eureka!newYour non-periodic damaging abilities have their Mana cost reduced by 10% and deal 10% more damage for 8 seconds.Racials

Eureka!newYour non-periodic damaging or healing abilities have their Mana cost reduced by 10% and deal 10% more damage or healing for 8 seconds.Racials

Eureka!newYour damaging abilities have their Mana cost reduced by 10% and deal 10% more damage for 8 seconds.Racials

Eureka!newYour non-periodic damaging abilities have their Rage cost reduced by 10% and deal 10% more damage for 8 seconds.Racials

Troll

1 new, 2 changed, 4 removed and 1 unchanged.

BerserkingchangedIncreases your ~~casting~~ spellcasting and attack speed by 10% ~~to 30%. At full health the speed increase is 10% with a greater effect up to 30% if you are badly hurt when you activate Berserking. Lasts 10 seconds.~~ for value not confirmed.Racials

Regenerationchanged... regeneration rate increased by ~~10%. 10%~~ 20%. In addition, 20% of total Health regeneration ~~may~~ will continue during combat.Racials

Throwing SpecializationremovedRemoved in Forever.Racials

Bow SpecializationremovedRemoved in Forever.Racials

BerserkingremovedRemoved in Forever.Racials

Rapid RegenerationnewRegenerate 50% of your maximum Health over 6 seconds. Any movement, action, or damage taken will cancel the effect.Racials

High Order Skyborne (new)

4 new, 0 changed, 0 removed and 0 unchanged.

Read LeylinenewAttempt to tap into the power of a nearby leyline, increasing your Health and Mana regeneration by 100%. Lasts 30 seconds if no leyline is nearby, and 15 minutes if one is found.Racials

Walk on AirnewGlide downward through the air for 10 seconds while controlling your direction of travel.Racials

Elemental InsightnewDamage dealt versus Elementals increased by 5%.Racials

Wind BlessednewIncreases your spellcasting, melee, and ranged Haste by 3%.Racials

Windshaper Skyborne (new)

4 new, 0 changed, 0 removed and 0 unchanged.

Walk on AirnewGlide downward through the air for 10 seconds while controlling your direction of travel.Racials

Elemental InsightnewDamage dealt versus Elementals increased by 5%.Racials

Wind BlessednewIncreases your spellcasting, melee, and ranged Haste by 3%.Racials

SkysightnewAttempt to draw power from a convergence of elements and receive its blessing, increasing your movement and mounted movement speeds by 10%. Lasts 30 seconds if no elemental convergence is nearby, and 15 minutes if one is found.Racials

What changes for rogue talents?

Forever has 10 new rogue talents, 35 changed talents and 8 removed talents compared with Classic Era. Combat, Assassination, Subtlety are compared above.

Which talent effects are different?

Talent	Rank 1 effect in Classic Era and Forever
Improved Eviscerate	Assassination to Combat. Increases the damage done by your Eviscerate ability by 5% to 7%.
Remorseless Attacks	After killing ~~an opponent that yields experience or honor,~~ a non-trivial enemy, gives you a 20% ... Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush, Mutilate, or Ghostly Strike. Lasts ...
Malice	... your critical strike chance with all attacks and Poisons by 1%.
Murder	Increases all damage ~~caused~~ dealt by 2% against Humanoid ~~Giant, Beast~~ and ~~Dragonkin~~ Giant targets. ~~by 1%.~~

How should you compare the trees?

For rogue, Vile Poisons moves from Assassination, tier 4, column 2 in Classic Era to Assassination, tier 4, column 1 in Forever. Check its new position before spending points.

Classic Era rogue builds can include Improved Backstab, Dagger Specialization, Mace Specialization. These talents are absent from the Forever trees.

For rogue, start with Mutilate, Venom, Puncturing Wounds. Read their full effects before reusing a Classic Era build.

Forever build history

Build 1.60.1.70707, 3 Nov 2026, first recorded build

Earlier Forever builds are not available for comparison yet.